Minutes - August 11, 2003 - Committee-of-the-Whole
Minutes of the Committee-of-the-Whole
Meeting
of the City Council of the
CITY OF DARIEN
AUGUST 11, 2003
1.
CALL TO ORDER
The
regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Darien
was called to order at 6:30 P.M. by Mayor Carmen D. Soldato.
In attendance were Mayor Soldato, Clerk Coleman, Treasurer
Monaghan, Aldermen Biehl, Hagen, Tikalsky, Weaver, Cotten,
Poteraske, Marchese, and Community Development Director
Dreyer.
2.
CONSULTANT INTERVIEW FOR BUSINESS DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT
AND REDEVELOPMENT – TESKA ASSOCIATES, INC.
Mayor Soldato introduced Mr. Lee M. Brown, Principal
of Teska Associates, Inc., who addressed Council and informed
Council of Teska’s background. He indicated that
their approach is “fundamental to understanding
that it is unlikely that municipalities will become developers;
that they are very likely to become good partners for
private redevelopment to a property”. The community
goals and market must be a good match; Teska would assist
Darien to understand market economic conditions and what
it can support. He noted that everything within the Comprehensive
Plan was not doable; he wanted Council to understand that
Teska may not always agree with the City’s plan.
Mr. Brown stated that the high quality and good character
improvements anticipated in the Comprehensive Plan set
goals and objectives for the sites, which could be supported
by paying rents and businesses that would stay within
the development. He distributed graphic materials that
depicted what might be attractive for the site and examples
of what other communities have done.
Mr. Terrence Jenkins, President of Business Districts,
Inc., addressed the Council. He stated that Darien had
a vision and inquired how it was different from other
retail commercial areas; he referred to the Comprehensive
Plan that articulated the differences. He explained their
approach to developing the area. Mr. Jenkins noted that
there must be a market for retailers to place their business
at the particular location and that a market analysis
would determine the level of interest, the desired categories,
and the competition. Land economics would define the costs
related to the designated intersection in terms of property,
infrastructure, and layout. It would need to be determined
if those costs match what the market place wants to do
and if the potential rents match the ability of the infrastructure
within the market place. The footprint or design would
need to support what the people want. The Comp Plan addresses
public and institutional uses, which is typical of a center
place within a community; he stated that the City should
factor in appropriate and practical, non-revenue generating
uses along with revenue generating business. They would
make suggestions about staging the project in order to
achieve the City’s goals; and economically, a determination
would need to be made if public financing was necessary.
Mr. Jenkins stated that a TIF should be considered as
a backend approach to the project.
Mayor Soldato stated that the ‘good news’
was evident that no decision has been made on the development/redevelopment
of the defined area; he noted that those opposed to this
project had been making statements, most notably during
the mayoral campaign, to the contrary. He indicated that
the evidence brought forth challenges Council particularly
because the economics may or may not work regardless of
the firm hired. He inquired how they would define land
economics since there are currently twelve different parcel
owners/businesses; Mr. Brown stated that there was more
than one market: the market of what would happen on its
own, the market of what you could get if you assisted
the market, and the market of if we build it what can
we do. He said that he was leery of basing development
on what it would cost to acquire property; he said that
the City may not want to own the property. He said that
the City needed to know how to control what would be built.
The value of the property would be interesting but may
not achieve the goal; he indicated that an appraisal would
be based on the current use but may not be the value for
what the City would ultimately want to see there in the
future.
Mayor Soldato stated that there was a timeline for the
Commission; that the Commission would work with staff
to prepare ‘Request for Proposals’; and that
they would interview developers based on the responses.
He asked if Teska would interact with the City and the
developers to say if the proposal was doable; Mr. Brown
responded that the project would consist of a proposal
process to generate the interest of private investors
for the best use of the site. Mr. Jenkins interjected
that the Comp Plan addresses three potential uses: institutional/public
space, office, and retail. He noted that the Plan addressed
the residential parcel and that it could become commercial;
he suggested that Council consider replacement of the
existing residential with high-end equity based residential.
Mayor Soldato stated that it made no sense for the City
to spend money unnecessarily and would like to pursue
the ‘Request for Proposals’ scenario.
Mayor Soldato opened the forum for comments and questions
from the Council members.
Alderman Poteraske stated that Teska focused on TIF eligibility
in their ‘Scope of Services’ but the presentation
did not; he inquired why they changed their approach.
Teska responded that once they drove through Darien and
had a better understanding of the community, they formed
a different opinion; they commented that they learn as
they go and they learned that there are numerous steps
that need to be done prior to considering TIF. There was
discussion about the cost of the phases and Teska indicated
that there was a $5,500 task prior to the TIF evaluation.
Teska noted that they had prepared a revised Scope, which
the Council did not receive.
Alderman Cotten stated that all credentials provided
were from Teska Associates, Inc. and nothing was received
from Business Districts, Inc. He noted that information
should be submitted about BDI since they are an integral
part of the proposal.
Alderman Poteraske asked that the submittal include additional
information: 1) how much time and elapsed time Phase 1
would be, and 2) how much participation by staff would
be needed.
Mayor Soldato stated that cost information was needed
and that the best way to pursue consideration of development/redevelopment
would be through the ‘Request for Proposals’
process. Mayor Soldato requested that Teska and BDI resubmit
their proposal to Administrator Vana for distribution
to Council.
Mayor Soldato advised the Council that there were no
meaningful agenda items for the August 18, 2003 Council
Meeting; he asked the Council if there were any objections
to canceling the meeting, hearing none, he advised the
City Council meeting of August 18, 2003 was cancelled.
He stated that there would be a Committee-of-the-Whole
meeting on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 at 6:00 P.M. prior
to the Council meeting.
3.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Committee-of-the-Whole,
the meeting adjourned at 7:25 P.M.
Mayor
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